CO129-335 - Governor Nathan - 1906 [8-10] — Page 456

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The marked passage is to be examined. I intend to make quite clear that the two preceding subsections dealing with the definition seem to me merely to be connected to the terms of the Draft reference.

Are we to take this as being in the terms of the Draft reference? If so, send it. If not, the B.Ji. had better decide what to do with it.

I fail to see what Magna Charta or the Dialogos de Scacario has to do with the Inlign perditio.

If "passengers" in the Chinese Passenger Act 1855 refers to all kinds of passengers and not merely emigrants, I do not think it can be gathered from the Law Officers' opinion that the Hong Kong Legislature can by regulation or otherwise alter the number of passengers which go to make up a Chinese passenger ship. But I think there is something to be said for the view that if a Chinese passenger within the meaning of the Imperial Act was really intended to mean a Chinese emigrant as distinct from first or second-class passengers, then, although this does not appear to have been the view of the legislative authority in Hong Kong, it would be possible to amend the Ordinance so as to exclude from the computation of twenty passengers, first and second-class passengers natives of China.

It will be noted, for what it is worth, that the Ordinance of 1889 repeats the definition in the Imperial Act of a Chinese passenger ship and purports to exercise, by Section 15(3), the right of deciding whether first and second-class passengers shall be included in the twenty passengers which would go to make it a passenger ship. On this view, it might be contended that the Imperial Government had allowed the definition of the number to be carried by a Chinese passenger ship to come under the Colony's legislation and not under the Imperial legislation. It may be deemed advisable to put this before the Law Officers again.

A copy of the Law Officers' opinion should be sent officially to the Colonial Office.

R.3.C. 8/12/6.

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The marked passage is to be examined. I intend to make quite clear that the two preceding subsections dealing with the definition seem to me merely to be connected to the terms of the Draft reference. Are we to take this as being in the terms of the Draft reference? If so, send it. If not, the B.Ji. had better decide what to do with it. I fail to see what Magna Charta or the Dialogos de Scacario has to do with the Inlign perditio. If "passengers" in the Chinese Passenger Act 1855 refers to all kinds of passengers and not merely emigrants, I do not think it can be gathered from the Law Officers' opinion that the Hong Kong Legislature can by regulation or otherwise alter the number of passengers which go to make up a Chinese passenger ship. But I think there is something to be said for the view that if a Chinese passenger within the meaning of the Imperial Act was really intended to mean a Chinese emigrant as distinct from first or second-class passengers, then, although this does not appear to have been the view of the legislative authority in Hong Kong, it would be possible to amend the Ordinance so as to exclude from the computation of twenty passengers, first and second-class passengers natives of China. It will be noted, for what it is worth, that the Ordinance of 1889 repeats the definition in the Imperial Act of a Chinese passenger ship and purports to exercise, by Section 15(3), the right of deciding whether first and second-class passengers shall be included in the twenty passengers which would go to make it a passenger ship. On this view, it might be contended that the Imperial Government had allowed the definition of the number to be carried by a Chinese passenger ship to come under the Colony's legislation and not under the Imperial legislation. It may be deemed advisable to put this before the Law Officers again. A copy of the Law Officers' opinion should be sent officially to the Colonial Office. R.3.C. 8/12/6. Page 3224 Page 3225 450 1679
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! is to marked passage, I shamed thank he Succon The th. declaratiy subsection seeming to me merely that the two preceding subsections douanet affela I intended to make quite clear Day definitio. Are uni to talks this as connessing in the terms of the Draft reference? Hp so? Send it. draft themselves, if they want If not, the B.Ji. had hites to spin cobrado. Cub to do with it. I what has the Inlign perditio We st drag in Magna Charta o the Dialogos de Scacario? 1679 3224 450 If "passengers in the Chinese Passenger Act 1855 refers to all kinds of passengers and not merely emigrants I do not think it can be gathered from the Law Officers' opinion that the Hong Kong Legislature can by regulation or otherwise alter the number of passengers which go make up a Chinese passenger ship, but and I think there if a Chinese pas- to is something to be said for the view senger within the meaning of the Imperial Act was really intended to mean a Chinese emigrant as distinct from first or second class passengers then, although this does not appear to have been the view of the legislative authority in Hong Kong, it would be possible to amend the Ordinance so as to exclude from the computation of twenty passen- gers, first and second class passengers natives of China. It will be noted for what it is worth that the ordi- nance of 1889 repeats the definition in the Imperial Act of a Chinese passenger ship and purports to exercise by Section 15 (3) the right of deciding whether first and second class passengers shall be included in the twenty passengers which would go to make it a passenger ship and on this view it might be contended that the Imperial GOV- ernment had allowed the definition of the number to be carried by a Chinese passenger ship to come under the Colony's legislation and not under the Imperial legisla- tion. It may be deemed advisable to put this before the Law Officers again. A copy of the Law Officers' opinion should be sent officially to the Colonial Office. Th R.3.C. 8/12/6.
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is to marked passage, I shamed thank he

Succon

The

th. declaratiy

subsection seeming to me

merely

that the two preceding subsections douanet affela I intended to make quite clear

Day

definitio.

Are uni to talks this as

connessing in

the terms of the Draft reference?

Hp so? Send it.

draft themselves, if they want

If not, the B.Ji. had hites

to spin cobrado.

Cub to do with it. I

what has the Inlign perditio

We st

drag in Magna Charta o the Dialogos de

Scacario?

1679

3224

450

If "passengers in the Chinese Passenger Act 1855

refers to all kinds of passengers and not merely emigrants

I do not think it can be gathered from the Law Officers'

opinion that the Hong Kong Legislature can by regulation

or otherwise alter the number of passengers which go

make up a Chinese passenger ship, but and I think there

if a Chinese pas-

to

is something to be said for the view

senger within the meaning of the Imperial Act was really

intended to mean a Chinese emigrant as distinct from first

or second class passengers then, although this does not

appear to have been the view of the legislative authority

in Hong Kong, it would be possible to amend the Ordinance

so as to exclude from the computation of twenty passen-

gers, first and second class passengers natives of China.

It will be noted for what it is worth that the ordi-

nance of 1889 repeats the definition in the Imperial Act

of a Chinese passenger ship and purports to exercise by

Section 15 (3) the right of deciding whether first and

second class passengers shall be included in the twenty

passengers which would go to make it a passenger ship and

on this view it might be contended that the Imperial GOV-

ernment had allowed the definition of the number to be

carried by a Chinese passenger ship to come under the

Colony's legislation and not under the Imperial legisla-

tion. It may be deemed advisable to put this before the

Law Officers again.

A copy of the Law Officers' opinion should be sent

officially to the Colonial Office.

Th

R.3.C.

8/12/6.

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